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the winnipeg sandbox » winnipeg sandbox.. » local... » Who says the North End ain't safe??

Who says the North End ain't safe??

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1Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:40 am

Freeman

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Oficially started vacation yesterday, but that doesn't mean literally, so I was at work until 10:30 pm. Headed home up Salter and no less than 6, I counted them, 6 police cars at the Robins at Selkirk and Salter. (I always thought they preferred Tim Hortons?)

Heading back to work this am at 7:30 up McGregor and at around Aberdeen, fire, paramedics, and many police (sorry, didn't count this time) attending an incident.

With this kind of presence, how does anyone not fell safe??? sarcasm end

2Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:11 pm

rosencrentz

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Robins is paying for that coverage! It has eliminated many deaths, from excess carbohydrates! It also I believe before their shift starts at 8 o'clock!

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3Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:01 pm

Freeman

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HEaded into work this am around &:00 am (ain't vacation great?), news reporting shooting in alley behind work. Not technically the north end, but close enough.

4Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:29 pm

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northender of the darkside continues her tirade against those who deign condemn her beloved crime infested cesspool of a neighbourhood: the north-end...

Re: Woman shot dead, two wounded at wedding reception

Post by Northender on Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:54 am

The Freep reports today that some unnamed source has suggested the police now believe it was a gang initiation, probably committed by a youth. And the chances are no one will ever be charged, never mind convicted, and if by chance they do get the actual shooter, he is probably an empty-headed kid and therefore won't face any real penalty for the crime. Another random wacko with a gun.

I'm pleased the Freep gave some perspective to this crime in its report on drugs. The gunfighting the North End residents are being subjected to is a direct result of gangs trying to control the illegal trade, and users in well-heeled neigbhourhoods who don't care much if their actions result in the death of Cheryl Robert.

I'm really sick and tired of peopel blaming North End families for this problem, as if it were a parenting issue. The problem actually resides in leafy neighbours where drug use is considered recreation and fun - and I'm not talking about marijuana.

We are talking about the folks who think cocaine, crack and meth are cool. These people and the gangs who supply them are to blame for the appalling violence going on in my neighbourhood.

I think the police should arrest some high profile users. Perhaps they could be paraded down my street so we can throw rotten vegatables at them.

What this navel-gazer fails to recognize is the problems begin and end in that god-forsaken part of the city. There may be customers and suppliers in other part's of the city but the bulk of the problems are not there.

n: get over your pernicious denial and open your eyes. Your neighbourhood is a cesspool not because of the people that don't live in your neighbourhood.

5Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:03 pm

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The entire north end is not a cesspool but within the historical boundaries there are migrating pockets of scum that help to foster the cliche that the north end has become - a bad-assed, mofo, trash-o, somewhat populated by retards and welfare cases, gang haven - shite - trot out the perceptions and some myths, there are enough to choose from.

I get tired of some of these cliches because I no longer have those problems next to me but I have had those issues in the past. Sometimes we just feel beaten down when we hear the same cliches but thank goodness there are those of us who have the intellect and wherewith all to deal with the scum face to face and sometimes at great risk for little or no reward. And when I say scum I include the carloads of suburban scum who come around these parts to score pussy and pot.

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

6Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty The North End Death Spiral Continues... Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:35 am

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Robbery and assault in the North End of Winnipeg -the Friday night incident has two adult-women and one female youth in custody-

CJOB News Team reporting

Three females are in custody after an assault in the North End of Winnipeg on Friday night.

Winnipeg Police responded to an assault that was in progress on Selkirk
Avenue at about 11:45pm Friday, August 14th, where a 21-year old woman
was being assaulted by three other females.

The woman was robbed before being beaten, and is now in hospital in stable condition.

Two women, and one youth, all female, are facing charges of robbery and assault with a weapon, and are in custody.

The Investigation is ongoing, and no names have been released.

I say we bulldoze this god forsaken part of town and start all over.

7Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:49 am

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Then the problem will simply migrate elsewhere. Perhaps a Berlin Wall-type solution..?

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8Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:51 am

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Can we move the problem to Calgary? Sputnik lives there, and he says Calgary is the bestest city in all the universe. Maybe Sput and the Calgarians can fix the problem???

9Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:52 am

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But when does the neighbourhood start taking care of itself. I remember shopping with my parents on Selkirk Avenue many years ago, and most of those businesses are now social service agencies, making no tax contrubiton, but rather consuming public money. I came into work this morning and as usual drove along Selkirk. As I waited for the light at McGregor, I realized that 2 corners of that intersection were formerly occupied by banks, now the closest banks are blocks away, but theres a couple of payday loan places within a block.

I guess my point is that in spite of massive amounts of public money being injected into that neighbourhood, its not working, but there are cries for considerably more public money to be injected. When is enough, enough? Maybe its time to try another strategy.

10Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:53 am

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Hmmm, I'd be happy to "sponsor" a couple of offenders by giving them bus tickets...

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11Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:00 pm

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Good point freeman. What say we reduce the number of social service agencies down to a more manageable two or three. Fund them only. What say we start reducing the footprint of that cesspool making the scum of the earth evil-doers more manageable. Fund the community centres properly. Quadruple the police and police-like groups. That's all I have for now.

12Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:32 pm

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give the laws some teeth so that the gang life is not as attractive an option, and many problems with crime will go away.

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13Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:12 pm

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We need to seriously look at the profit side of being into a gang and eliminate that source of income...if you know what I mean.

14Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:05 pm

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AdamX wrote:give the laws some teeth so that the gang life is not as attractive an option, and many problems with crime will go away.

Hehe. Gang life is the only option for some of these kids.

15Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:09 pm

Miz point

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Gang life is NOT the only option for these kids....unfortunately the lure of a false family and instant reward is immediately more satisfying to some than having recreational and educational opportunites.

http://www.granhotelflores.blogspot.com

16Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:10 pm

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death128 wrote:Hehe. Gang life is the only option for some of these kids.

Really now? How so?

Perhaps gang life is the only life for some of these kids that are too lazy to do the right thing???

17Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:18 pm

Miz point

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These kids learn by example.....I wonder what the progeny of the bangers will be up to in the next few years?

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18Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:23 pm

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In-fricking-deed!

It can only get worse if we don't do something. And soon.

Let's start by locking the bad guys and gals up. Let's continue by keeping them locked up as long as we possibly can. And continue by keeping them locked up a little longer.

Seems reasonable.

19Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:24 pm

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Instant reward? I think it's more for an immediate need and develops into an eventual 'working' relationship with gangs.

20Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:26 pm

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Friday night the hubby and I went to the Windsor to check out a blues band. While outside, a young very intoxicated aboriginal guy kept asking us for money, smokes etc. There was a really nice expensive Harley out front and he was sitting on it and playing around. I told him if I was him I wouldn't be doing that sh1t....he's very lucky the owner didn't come out and kick the sh1t out of him.

The point of my story is, it was almost scary out front of the bar. Panhandlers, drunks etc bothering the patrons for money, smokes etc. This is the reason I rarely go downtown.

21Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:28 pm

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death128 wrote:
AdamX wrote:give the laws some teeth so that the gang life is not as attractive an option, and many problems with crime will go away.

Hehe. Gang life is the only option for some of these kids.

You know what they say about excuses, don't ya? They're like assholes, everyone's got one.

22Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:31 pm

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I love the windsor. Great acoustics.

I'm sure the dude wouldn't have cared if he did get the sh1t kicked out of him.

Despondent.

23Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:34 pm

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Goth_chic wrote:
death128 wrote:
AdamX wrote:give the laws some teeth so that the gang life is not as attractive an option, and many problems with crime will go away.

Hehe. Gang life is the only option for some of these kids.

You know what they say about excuses, don't ya? They're like assholes, everyone's got one.

So what's Canada's excuse? >.<

24Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:21 pm

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Canada's excuse for what? For putting up with criminals instead of executing them? I keep asking myself that. I say take all level 4 car thiefs, gang bangers, murderers and rapists and let us law abiding folks use them for target practice! Goth_chic for Prime Minister!!!

25Who says the North End ain't safe?? Empty Re: Who says the North End ain't safe?? Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:23 pm

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Goth_chic wrote:Canada's excuse for what? For putting up with criminals instead of executing them? I keep asking myself that. I say take all level 4 car thiefs, gang bangers, murderers and rapists and let us law abiding folks use them for target practice! Goth_chic for Prime Minister!!!

While you're PM, impose a deadline for Gail and co. to raise all the money for their musuem, or else it gets cancelled. No blank cheque!

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