No More Burqa in France! Pretty Balsy Statement!

Sarkozy Backs Drive to Eliminate the Burqa
“The issue of the burqa is not a religious issue. It is a question of freedom and of women’s dignity,” Mr. Sarkozy said. “The burqa is not a religious sign. It is a sign of the subjugation, of the submission, of women.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/23/world/europe/23france.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper

I applaud that decision. I wish we had a government that had some balls.....

Damn time the world began to sanction Islam. Burqa's have no place in France or any other civilized nation. Anybody who calls that statement "intolerant" knows nothing about Muslim countries or the fundamentalists that rule them. Opposing the spread of this oppressive and increasingly dangerous culture will fast become priority #1 in the Western world.
"Not all Muslims are terrorists however 100% of terrorists are Muslims". That's a fact.

What is the matter with you two?
1916- Manitoba women get the vote! Everything since then has caused this province to go downhill!
manitoba needs to import some Burqa's for some of our women!
Harumph!

Oh Rosen.....you are too funny......I keep channeling that Burl Ives in teh bath tub photo......hehehehe

Jondo wrote:
"Not all Muslims are terrorists however 100% of terrorists are Muslims". That's a fact.

That statement, actually, is false. maybe get your facts straight before you jump on the anti-islam bandwagon

I like that new Swedish law...

Huh? In the context of terrorism against the west it is entirely accurate. Obviously we can discount Timothy McVeigh. If you're referring to the IRA and the many other religious combatants then you're purposely missing the point.

And furthermore X-man, I don't subscribe to the "It's not what Islam can do for you but what you can do for Islam" philosophy. Another fact - Islam does nothing for me and I'm happy to leave it at that.

No, if they where really Muslims they would not be out killing people. They are frauds that use religion as an excuse to commit horrific atrocities.

Its like a Christian that does awful things in the name of god. Where in the bible does it say to hurt people? it doesn't. It tells people to love everyone. Even people who wrong you. Just to drive the point home (thanks google for help finding the verse) Romans 12:20 says "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."

I am sure its much the same in the Muslim belief system.

winnipegceilingcat wrote:No, if they where really Muslims they would not be out killing people. They are frauds that use religion as an excuse to commit horrific atrocities.

Its like a Christian that does awful things in the name of god. Where in the bible does it say to hurt people? it doesn't. It tells people to love everyone. Even people who wrong you. Just to drive the point home (thanks google for help finding the verse) Romans 12:20 says "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."

I am sure its much the same in the Muslim belief system.

Well said.

okay so Discount timothy M. ( although I cant understand why you would do that )

And that still leaves you with 1000s of American born, Christrian god worshipping who want to use arms to otherthrow the american government and dont care who they hurt to do it.

Or... whats you definition of terrorism Jondo? Maybe that will help us to understand why you think every terrorist is a Muslim.

You guys can't be serious. Winnipeg ceiling cat, the Quraan (their Bible) is quite clear on Infidels - they should be slaughtered. That's a big point to miss.
DeanK, what is terrorism? check the Worlds Top 100 Wanted Terrorists. It's an exclusive list - Muslims.

Where do you find this worlds top 100 wanted terrorists list?

Dean you could check the FBI Wanted Terrorists listing or this is much the same
theurbangrind.net/?p=3656

Jondo - you have big M muslims vs. small m muslims. Same thing goes for just about any religious designation. Those who take the "small" approach to labeling themselves, I believe, are humble and pious and righteous folks....those who define themselves in the more egotistical, big letter sense, I believe, are on a mission. Think about that for a bit before you start to label over a billion folks "terrorists".

Jondo wrote:Dean you could check the FBI Wanted Terrorists listing or this is much the same
theurbangrind.net/?p=3656

well there is only 18 on that list... and the FBI list is very very far from the worlds list.

however... number 3 or I guess whatever the top right hand guy is.. 3.. or just there by listing.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/tersandiego_da.htm

hardly looks like the rest and being born in America and having a spanish last name I would guess Catholic of some form if he actually follows any religion at all

Care to take back the all terrorists are muslim statement yet?

To be fair MP...he didn't say all muslims are terrorists...he said all terrorists are muslims.
So it's only labeling the few extremists as muslims...not billions of people as terrorists.

That said...I still don't believe being muslim is akin to terrorism (or the other way around).

In many terrorists' eyes...today's terrorist is tomorrow's freedom-fighter...or hero.

The organizers of the Boston Tea Party would be considered "terrorists" if the revolution had been quelled in the end...today they are reveled as heroes.

You are correct.....one of my favourite scenarios to give to fundy Christians is the What if Jesus were alive today and preaching in Central Park situation. My bet is he would be detained by Der Fatherland security or hauled off to Bellevue.

Holy sh1t. I thought this was 2009, and then I read Jondo's comments about Muslims and realized that this must be 1938.

Jondo wrote:Damn time the world began to sanction Islam. Burqa's have no place in France or any other civilized nation. Anybody who calls that statement "intolerant" knows nothing about Muslim countries or the fundamentalists that rule them. Opposing the spread of this oppressive and increasingly dangerous culture will fast become priority #1 in the Western world.
"Not all Muslims are terrorists however 100% of terrorists are Muslims". That's a fact.

Only if your definition of "terrorist" is Islamic Fundamentalist Militant Activist.

There ARE other kids of terrorism in the world, sadly.

Glad to see that AgesAces gets the point. Obviously 1.5 billion people are not terrorists. Geesh. To be accurate however - that very commonly referenced sentence that I quoted has been altered to satisfy those few that seek to be offended. It now commonly reads as:
"Not all Muslims are terrorists however 99% of terrorists are Muslims."
So try and be practical and accept this fact because it is a real and present danger to much of the world.
I'll help you understand with an anaolgy. If there were 1000 dog-attack deaths of citizens in Canada in 2009, all committed by Rotweillers - people would be in fear of Rotweillers - not Poodles. To be accurate however, Canada would probably round up the poodles first - so as not to appear to discriminate.
I'm not into those political games. If you don't sense the real and present danger that the Muslim Fundamentalist movement presents to the rest of the world then you have that right to pretend. Read ShakeDown (Ezra Levant) on the Canadian Human Rights Commissions and you will learn that the Muslim Movement everywhere (including the many Canadian Congresses) has the strategy of eroding and defeating our culture and faith from within our own legal and humanitarian frameworks. They have recognized that mechanism as our weakness.

""Not all Muslims are terrorists however 99% of terrorists are Muslims."
So try and be practical and accept this fact because it is a real and present danger to much of the world."

you never said 99%... you said 100%... thats a huge difference.

Interesting that you find that so significant.

OK, so now we've gone to drawing analogies between the world's most populated religion and vicious dogs. Got to see where this one goes.