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Which Wpg GM & Brandon dealers do you believe will close?

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Which Wpg & Brandon GM dealers do you believe will close?

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Triniman

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Some GM dealers in Manitoba will be forced to shut. Which Winnipeg & Brandon dealers do you think will close?
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GM Canada says 245 dealerships getting axed
Updated: Wed May. 20 2009 1:15:42 PM

General Motors confirmed Wednesday that it has informed almost two-fifths of its dealerships across Canada that their relationship with the automaker will be terminated.

A GM spokesperson said letters were sent Wednesday to 245 of 709 dealerships in Canada informing them that their sales-and-service relationships will be ending.

Further consolidation by the end of 2010 is expected to push the number of closed dealerships even higher

rosencrentz

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Do you think that these are the small dealers in small towns who sell 12 cars a year?

http://www.elansofas.com

Triniman

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Maybe more than 12 cars a year, but there are lots of other dealers. The software only allows 10 choices, however, so I picked Wpg and Brandon.

Freeman

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Close them all. Make room for more Hyundai dealers.

Triniman

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Freeman wrote:Close them all. Make room for more Hyundai dealers.
Hyundai has come a long way. I take it you drive one?

Freeman

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I LOVE MY CAR.

Bought an Elantra last year. Never thought I would as I'm kind of a Honda guy, but the car is great. Well thought out. The little things make a difference. If the Big 3 had done what they had done, they would not be in the position they are in now.

grumpy old man

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I think you identified the basic problem with the big three. They did not learn during the last crises. I doubt they'll learn from this crises. Their arrogance knows no bounds.

Triniman

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grumpy old man wrote:I think you identified the basic problem with the big three. They did not learn during the last crises. I doubt they'll learn from this crises. Their arrogance knows no bounds.
The fact that people actually bought millions of Big 3 vehicles since the last crisis tells you something about some consumers. Hopefully, people are expecting more from their vehicles.

Deank

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gonna be a tough one,

I know Guathier has layed some people off, but I am fairly certain its sticking around. I dont think many of the Winnipeg ones will close.

Triniman

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Deank wrote:gonna be a tough one,

I know Guathier has layed some people off, but I am fairly certain its sticking around. I dont think many of the Winnipeg ones will close.
I hate to see people lose their jobs. It's not like they're all going to find work at the other dealers. It will be interesting to see what, if any, new business ventures emerge from the aftermath of closures. Will a bunch of laid off mechanics and service writers band together to open their own independent shops? Competition is always a good thing, IMHO.

Freeman

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With Big 3 dealers closing, it will become more difficult to get warranty work done on the crap they've been selling.

grumpy old man

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Competition is a good thing. But too much of a good thing is still too much. I have no idea if there are too many GM dealerships in Winnipeg/Manitoba, but I guess we'll soon find out.

As to peeps buying millions of Big 3 cars, true that. But not enough to become profitable. They have been losing market share for years. This crises just opened up the injury the Big 3 would have inevitably suffered.

No matter how much money government throws at these guys (GM and Chrysler anywho) if they do not start recognizing what the market demands, like Honda and Toyota and Hyundai have, they will collapse.

Triniman

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grumpy old man wrote:Competition is a good thing. But too much of a good thing is still too much. I have no idea if there are too many GM dealerships in Winnipeg/Manitoba, but I guess we'll soon find out.

As to peeps buying millions of Big 3 cars, true that. But not enough to become profitable. They have been losing market share for years. This crises just opened up the injury the Big 3 would have inevitably suffered.

No matter how much money government throws at these guys (GM and Chrysler anywho) if they do not start recognizing what the market demands, like Honda and Toyota and Hyundai have, they will collapse.
If you had to briefly summarize the advantage that Honda, Toyota and Hyundai have, what would they be?
I used to think it was sheer quality, but they say that the Big 3 are churning out vehicles that score just as well in the JD Power initial quality ratings, so who knows?

Deank

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The non big 3 are hurting just as bad right now,

JT Estoban

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Everyone's opinionated about a particular brand and for various
reasons. Personally, in the short time that I've been able to own
vehicles, I've owned 3, and none of them were built in Canada. However
all of them were made by at least one of the used-to-be-big three.

You find me ten people who will hail the quality of Toyota, Honda and Hyundai, and I'll find you ten people who will say the exact same thing about the used-to-be big three.

Riddle me this...if the auto maker opens a assembly plant in a foreign country and imports parts from several different countries, and assembles the vehicles in the host country...is it still a foreign vehicle or is it now a domestic?

Deank

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why thats a domestic!

heh...and is exactly why Toyota and Etc started building cars here.

JT Estoban

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grumpy old man

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FYI almost every car I've owned were GM or Chrysler. I did own a Honda Prelude. Never owned a Ford or Toyota.

Quality used to be the big difference between Japanese and NA vehicles. Not sure now that is the deciding point. Certainly not at the higher end of the scale. It may well be on the lower end.

But I thing the major difference is subjective measures: innovation, attractiveness, comfort. Almost every Japanese/German/Korean car built today is a nice looking car.

Hard to pinpoint. Certainly resale value is a big indicator.

eastsider

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I've always been a Dodge man too, have driven all kinds from Vauxhalls to Suzukis but in the end I always come back to Dodge. Its not so much quality or anything else why I choose Dodge over others, its simply brand loyalty. And I'll bet GOM thinks along the same lines!

grumpy old man

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N'yes and no... I had three Grand Cherokees in a row. (Plus a fourth to replace a one month new stolen Grand Cherokee. I really liked the Grand Cherokee. Prior to that I had a 300M. I just loved the look of that car. My latest is another Jeep (Compass) and I guess that is where the brand loyalty comes in.

But, I don't like my new car. I will likely buy a gently used BMW or something similar next.

eastsider

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GOM,whats wrong with the Compass? I love the look of it and the fact it has a 4 banger in it( 2.2 or 2.4 I think).If I could get your vehicle with a 5 speed standard I'd be in heaven:)

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I recently read where they compared GM and Toyota dealership numbers.

Both were doing about 2M plus sales, but GM had 4 times the number of dealerships.

Heh...that's not sustainable.

grumpy old man

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eastsider wrote:GOM,whats wrong with the Compass? I love the look of it and the fact it has a 4 banger in it( 2.2 or 2.4 I think).If I could get your vehicle with a 5 speed standard I'd be in heaven:)
It is sucked out. No power what-so-ever. It has an auto-stick and I use that. The five speed standard would make a world of difference. A six-banger would be perfect for that car.

Deank

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JT Estoban

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Murray perhaps?

C'mon...now's the time for some unfounded wild speculation!

Frick, they pay people to gossip like this in the financial sector!

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