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1Give Canucks first crack at jobs Empty Give Canucks first crack at jobs Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:56 am

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By ELIZABETH THOMPSON, NATIONAL BUREAU

The federal government should adopt a "Canadians First" policy and cut the number of temporary foreign workers allowed during the economic downturn, a Liberal senator said yesterday.

If a business absolutely can't find a Canadian and must bring in a temporary foreign worker, that business should have to pay $500 a month into a fund to train Canadians to do those jobs in the future, Sen. Pierrette Ringuette said.

In an interview with Sun Media, Ringuette said her call for a "Canadians First" policy follows the news this week of job losses in northern Ontario.

FOREIGN WORKERS
"I was looking at the layoffs of the 700 miners in Sudbury and I was thinking there are a lot of foreign workers working in the mines in northern Alberta and northern Saskatchewan and Manitoba and maybe our Canadians could do a very good job there."

On Tuesday, Ringuette called for the government to "halt" the foreign workers program.
"It would cost the government zero dollars to bring back a Canadians first for jobs policy," she told senators. "We must reconsider that during this current fiscal situation, we are providing foreign workers with visas to work in Canada while Canadians are
seeking jobs."

INTOLERANCE
Yesterday, however, she called for a "review" of the policy. "If the issue is not revised, I think that it could certainly increase a certain intolerance," she said. NDP MP Olivia Chow also suggested that tensions could rise if Canadians lose their jobs while temporary foreign workers remain. Immigration Minister Jason Kenney expects the number of temporary foreign workers to drop this year.

"The temporary foreign workers and the provincial nominee programs are based on concrete job offers and so we fully anticipate that the intake of people in those streams, temporary workers and provincial nominees, will probably decrease, perhaps significantly," Kenney said.

I think a huge part of the problem is most Canadians won't work certain jobs. Despite years of unemployment certain jobs are beneath some people.

2Give Canucks first crack at jobs Empty Re: Give Canucks first crack at jobs Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:05 am

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grumpy old man wrote:
By ELIZABETH THOMPSON, NATIONAL BUREAU

The federal government should adopt a "Canadians First" policy and cut the number of temporary foreign workers allowed during the economic downturn, a Liberal senator said yesterday.

If a business absolutely can't find a Canadian and must bring in a temporary foreign worker, that business should have to pay $500 a month into a fund to train Canadians to do those jobs in the future, Sen. Pierrette Ringuette said.

In an interview with Sun Media, Ringuette said her call for a "Canadians First" policy follows the news this week of job losses in northern Ontario.

FOREIGN WORKERS
"I was looking at the layoffs of the 700 miners in Sudbury and I was thinking there are a lot of foreign workers working in the mines in northern Alberta and northern Saskatchewan and Manitoba and maybe our Canadians could do a very good job there."

On Tuesday, Ringuette called for the government to "halt" the foreign workers program.
"It would cost the government zero dollars to bring back a Canadians first for jobs policy," she told senators. "We must reconsider that during this current fiscal situation, we are providing foreign workers with visas to work in Canada while Canadians are
seeking jobs."

INTOLERANCE
Yesterday, however, she called for a "review" of the policy. "If the issue is not revised, I think that it could certainly increase a certain intolerance," she said. NDP MP Olivia Chow also suggested that tensions could rise if Canadians lose their jobs while temporary foreign workers remain. Immigration Minister Jason Kenney expects the number of temporary foreign workers to drop this year.

"The temporary foreign workers and the provincial nominee programs are based on concrete job offers and so we fully anticipate that the intake of people in those streams, temporary workers and provincial nominees, will probably decrease, perhaps significantly," Kenney said.

I think a huge part of the problem is most Canadians won't work certain jobs. Despite years of unemployment certain jobs are beneath some people.



I'll admit it, I am 24 years and my generation has been conditioned to think that if we have higher level of education then we are higher up the employment chain. Like I won't work for less then $15/hour and must have full benifits. If an employer can't offer me that, I know one of the other in the line that wants will meet my requirments.

3Give Canucks first crack at jobs Empty Re: Give Canucks first crack at jobs Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:13 am

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$500 per month into a fund to train Canadians to do the job? sheesh...

4Give Canucks first crack at jobs Empty Re: Give Canucks first crack at jobs Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:16 pm

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So, if we adopt a "Canadians First" policy, the unemployment rate will drop as everyone takes those jobs in the service and health care industries?

5Give Canucks first crack at jobs Empty Re: Give Canucks first crack at jobs Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:23 pm

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Ummm, not bloody likely. If they would not work those jobs yesterday they are unlikely to work them tomorrow.

The other issue that has to be dealt with real soon like is the blue collar baby boomer retirement festival that will be soon upon us.

The incentive package needs to include not only training in the trades but some sort of additional incentive to a) take the training and b) work the jobs after they finish the training.

The incentive should be monetary: more income while training or no more welfare, no more employment insurance, no more treaty monies...

6Give Canucks first crack at jobs Empty Re: Give Canucks first crack at jobs Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:22 pm

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A lot of the foreigners we bring in have trades that Canadians don't seem interested in any more . Machinists and Heavy Duty Truck Mechanics, to name two .

7Give Canucks first crack at jobs Empty Re: Give Canucks first crack at jobs Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:30 pm

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At my husbands workplace most machinists are Canadian or German.

8Give Canucks first crack at jobs Empty Re: Give Canucks first crack at jobs Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:33 pm

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What is there average age , Red River is still looking for more kids to take it up as a trade. As this trade takes time to become proficient in it .

9Give Canucks first crack at jobs Empty Re: Give Canucks first crack at jobs Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:36 pm

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The ages range from 20's to 60's.

10Give Canucks first crack at jobs Empty Re: Give Canucks first crack at jobs Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:50 pm

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Well then there shop may be lucky as some of them are looking overseas for people , My brother in law works for the Dept of the goverment provincial who do this forget what it is called .

11Give Canucks first crack at jobs Empty Re: Give Canucks first crack at jobs Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:10 am

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Give Canucks first crack at jobs Canucks

I think the Canucks are making enough money as it is...

12Give Canucks first crack at jobs Empty Re: Give Canucks first crack at jobs Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:47 am

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Goth_chic wrote:At my husbands workplace most machinists are Canadian or German.


Same with my girlfriends workplace...

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