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No more Dungeon?

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1No more Dungeon? Empty No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:28 pm

AGEsAces

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This was announced this morning.

Closing Guantanmo

http://www.photage.ca

2No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:31 pm

Deank

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I figured that would have been order 1. At least he stopped the trials yesterday... yup yesterday in the middle of the partying he worked...awesome

3No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:35 pm

grumpy old man

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But where is that Canadian terrorist gonna go?

4No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:51 pm

FlyingRat

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Abu Ghrab?

5No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:43 pm

Guest

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...or a prison in the U.S. in a state that has the death penalty.

6No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:17 pm

Freeman

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Why not just release him in the home town of the soldier that was killed in the fire fight he was involved in?

7No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:35 pm

Freeman

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So, closing Guantanmo, will the world be a safer place?

8No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:01 pm

cherenkov

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Freeman wrote:So, closing Guantanmo, will the world be a safer place?
If the US starts assigning basic rights and freedoms required to POWs under international law, then that may result in less hatred towards the US, and by extension other western nations, from middle eastern countries where these prisoners originate, and thus the world will become a safer place.

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9No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:23 pm

Freeman

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What rights and freedoms do POW's require under international law? Did Iraq (as an example of a middle east country) extend the protocols required under the Geneva articles to coalition POW's during Desert Storm?

10No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:41 pm

AGEsAces

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What amazed me most about the article:

Most of the prisoners whose sentence would be the death penalty, are pleading guilty to their charges.

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11No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:51 pm

Deank

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Thats because a good chunk of the prisoners are actual supporters of "the cause" and want to die to get their 40 virgins.

12No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:55 pm

SMW

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Deank wrote:Thats because a good chunk of the prisoners are actual supporters of "the cause" and want to die to get their 40 virgins.

I'd heard the number was 72 virgins.

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13No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:24 pm

AGEsAces

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And I heard that if they see a naked woman, they have to commit suicide.

So let's send the Playboy Bunnies down there for a big party Very Happy.

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14No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:40 pm

cherenkov

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And they're not really virgins. Allah has his way with them first.

Freeman: I hope we're not using Saddam Hussein as the standard that we are expected to live up to.

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15No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:02 pm

Freeman

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No we're not using Saddam Hussein, but I'm still wondering what POW's rights and freedoms are under international law.

16No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:01 pm

cherenkov

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well .. there's this: http://spj.org/gc-index.asp?#humanetreatmentofprisonersofwar

I'm not motivated enough to go looking for anything else.

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17No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:17 am

Freeman

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Yup, those are the ones I was taught.

So what freedoms are included in the Geneva articles?

18No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:28 am

Guest

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Yes there is hope for the USA after all this is a good move .

19No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:08 am

Freeman

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Guantanamo may not be the nicest place in the world, but suggesting that its closing will bring less hatred against the US, especially from certain Arab states is nothing but CRAP.

Gitmo did not exist prior to the terrorist attacks of 9/11, Desert Shield and Desert Storm, the attack on the USS Cole, and a multitude of other "attacks" on not only the US, but western countries as well. Yet, there was plenty of hatred before all of that too.

To make the suggestion that the closing of the POW detention centre at Guantanamo Bay will somehow make the world a safer place is a massive inferential leap and is not based on anything real, other than misdirected anti-US, anti-Bush sentiment.

20No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:04 am

Guest

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I hope in closing Gitmo, Obama tells his Generals to no longer take prisoners. That would make both sides happy I reckon...or not.

21No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:12 am

Deank

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well as we see in Canada not taking a prisoner can lead to murder charges.

22No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:20 am

IG Guy

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Freeman wrote:Guantanamo may not be the nicest place in the world, but suggesting that its closing will bring less hatred against the US, especially from certain Arab states is nothing but CRAP.

Gitmo did not exist prior to the terrorist attacks of 9/11, Desert Shield and Desert Storm, the attack on the USS Cole, and a multitude of other "attacks" on not only the US, but western countries as well. Yet, there was plenty of hatred before all of that too.

To make the suggestion that the closing of the POW detention centre at Guantanamo Bay will somehow make the world a safer place is a massive inferential leap and is not based on anything real, other than misdirected anti-US, anti-Bush sentiment.


Hey, its a start. better then what was happening under the Bush Régime!! 🤺 lol

23No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:20 am

grumpy old man

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Mixed messages coming from Ottawa on the status of the Canadian terrorist. It seems Harper's office wants nothing to do with him. The bureaucrats are weighing their options.

Good for Harper's office. I do not want this punk back in Canada.

24No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:42 am

Freeman

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Khadr is another "Canadian of choice."

25No more Dungeon? Empty Re: No more Dungeon? Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:48 am

FlyingRat

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Trade him to the UK for Chris Mason!

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