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Ice Edge Holdings response to my email

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1Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Tue May 25, 2010 4:41 pm

casualchris

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ok so i like to email companies/corporations/groups and tell them what i think, good and bad, anyway, i sent an email to ice edge as outlined in the following, i love their response, it only took them a week to come up with a one word response....

"Donkey."

________________________________________
From: cc

Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:14 PM
To: info@iceedgeholdings.com
Subject:
[Ice/Edge] Other

Hello Ice/Edge Holdings,
An email has been sent from
cc. Here's the message:
"Hockey in the desert is a dumb
idea, good on ya thought for trying to waste tax dollars and bank debt, i guess
if your plan is to sell hockey in the desert you better be very prepared to lose
a bankroll or two.

Dummies"

This additional information was
provided:
Name: cc
Email: cjmartens@hotmail.com
Phone:
204-xxx-2045

Seriously, how do they plan to make money down there? I'm surprised the banks are supposedly putting up money for them, er maybe not.

cc

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Are they calling you a Democrat???

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Ok, im going to keep this cronicalogical and keep updating it, hopefully they keep responding.

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Email sent to IEH May 19/10

"Hello Ice/Edge Holdings,

Hockey in the desert is a dumb idea, good on ya
thought for trying to waste tax dollars and bank debt, i guess if your plan is
to sell hockey in the desert you better be very prepared to lose a bankroll or
two.

Dummies"

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May 25/10 response from IEH

"Donkey"

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May 25 response back to IEH

"Hah, it took you a week to come up with a single word response?

Seriously, how does IEH plan on turning things around in the desert? One game this year garnered 5800 fans, in the beginning of november, so what does that add up to in terms of revenues? And twenty dollar tickets? with all the food and drink included? no wonder you guys dont want to/cant put up your own money. I think you guys got to much sun lately and aren't thinking straight.

My single word response to you folks down in the desert..........

Donkeys"

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Is it "Ice Edge" or "Ice Hole"...



Last edited by Electrician on Tue May 25, 2010 5:01 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : which rhymes with a........)

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You want that personal information published cc?

6Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Wed May 26, 2010 12:19 am

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who i am is not much of a secret around here i think, but i'll edit it out

7Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Wed May 26, 2010 12:20 am

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Or GOM you can take it out if you have the powers to

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The Ice Edge folks are likely our best hope of that team returning to Winnipeg.

I'm amazed any lender would throw $150 MILLION or so at this venture. Assuming they do have a lender, how do they plan to make the team profitable? In $15 years that team never made a dime. Last year, a year when they had their best record ever, they still lost 20 or 30 million dollars.

These folks will be bankrupt faster than you can say moronic lending practices...

PHOENIX - Ice Edge Holdings has exclusive rights, with some conditions, to negotiate a lease agreement for the Phoenix Coyotes with the city of Glendale under a memorandum of understanding to be presented to the city council next week.

The memorandum agreed to by Ice Edge and city officials is a significant step toward purchase of the Coyotes from the NHL. It was presented to the council in a close-door session on Friday, then the item was posted on the agenda for the council's regularly scheduled meeting next Tuesday.

Ice Edge, a group of mostly Canadian investors, would have exclusive negotiating rights for 60 days unless another potential buyer gives US$25 million to the city to cover its obligations to the NHL. Ice Edge also has to present a term sheet to the city from a lender proving it has the financial backing to buy the team.

The only other potential buyer has been a group headed by Chicago sports mogul Jerry Reinsdorf and there was no indication it was willing to make that commitment.

The NHL bought the team out of bankruptcy last September with the intention of selling it to someone who would keep it in Glendale, where the team has lost tens of millions of dollars in recent seasons.

Purchase of the team is contingent on a new lease agreement with Glendale for the Coyotes to play at Jobing.com Arena.

"This has been a long process for everyone involved with many peaks and valleys," said Ice Edge chief executive officer Anthony LeBlanc. "We are happy to be in a position to hopefully move forward with our plans for the Coyotes. However, there still is a lot of work to be done starting with the approval of our MOU by Glendale city council."

Earlier, the council approved a memorandum for the Reinsdorf group but rejected the Ice Edge proposal.

Later, city officials approached Ice Edge asking if it would return to the bargaining table. At one point, Ice Edge walked away from those talks, but later returned.

The NHL will decide who will buy the team but if Ice Edge can work out a new lease within 60 days, it would be the only potential purchaser with the necessary lease agreement. The league has said it would look to move the troubled franchise if no buyer could be found to keep the team in Arizona.

The Coyotes never have turned a profit since the franchise moved from Winnipeg in 1996. The team had played before sparse crowds until this season, when the Coyotes set franchise records for wins. The team played before sellout crowds at season's end before falling to Detroit in seven games in the first round of the playoffs.

The agreement notes that it is important to complete the sale as soon as possible.

"It is the intention of both parties," the memorandum reads, "to proceed with negotiations of the necessary agreements without delay with the desire to have agreements completed for approval within 60 days."

Read MOU here.

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The MOU is interesting reading. It looks like Ice Edge is looking for the "CFD" to heavily subsidize the team. There seems to be extraordinary emphasis on parking revenues. Additionally there will be ticket surcharges for all events at that arena that will go to the team.

This sounds like something the Winnipeg Enterprises tried when trying to salvage the Jets. We all know how that worked out.

Good luck to these folks. I fear they'll need lots of it...

10Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:13 am

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The NHL bought the team out of bankruptcy last September with the intention of selling it to someone who would keep it in Glendale, where the team has lost tens of millions of dollars in recent seasons.

It appears this logic comes from someone with way too much money or who has taken too many pucks to the head.

11Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:16 am

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Bettman never played hockey did he

12Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:54 am

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grumpy old man wrote:
This sounds like something the Winnipeg Enterprises tried when trying to salvage the Jets. We all know how that worked out.
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I wonder how many concerts Phoenix gets in that arena??? Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Icon_wink

13Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:12 pm

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I bet there are several competing arena's in that CMA.

14Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:33 pm

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Once the ice is gone... they use the rink for naked women's mud wrestling...
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The only problem is... the women are all over the age of 80...
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15Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:58 pm

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All you naysayers have no clue what goes on behind the scenes, and yet you complain and criticize like you think you have the right to complain and criticize!
You have to be a senior citizen or else the founder to criticize! look up the rules!
This groups certainly aren't donkeys, as I have it on good knowledge through a rumour at my synnagogue, that they have hired Bernie Madoff to work the donation angle!

http://www.elansofas.com

16Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:01 am

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grumpy old man wrote:The Ice Edge folks are likely our best hope of that team returning to Winnipeg.

I'm amazed any lender would throw $150 MILLION or so at this venture. Assuming they do have a lender, how do they plan to make the team profitable? In $15 years that team never made a dime. Last year, a year when they had their best record ever, they still lost 20 or 30 million dollars.

These folks will be bankrupt faster than you can say moronic lending practices...
That said, this came as no surprise:
By: Gary Lawless, Winnipeg Free Press
Ice Edge's deal to keep the Phoenix Coyotes in Arizona could be in peril due to tough financial times, says the group's spokesman.

Daryl Jones, CEO of Ice Edge Holdings, the lone group in discussions with the City of Glendale to buy and keep the Phoenix Coyotes at Jobing.com Arena, is not sure his team will be able to put together a financing package to purchase the team.

"It's hard to gauge the probability of this deal closing," said Jones.

"Realistically, there has been a great deal of financial turmoil in the world over the last 45 days, sovereign-debt issues and stock market corrections, which are going to make it harder for us, or any group, to close this transaction. That being said, we do remain optimistic."

More...

17Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:46 am

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Is the Goldwater Institute planning on opening a branch in Winnipeg?

18Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:59 am

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Why? Governments in Canada don't spend money recklessly...
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19Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:29 pm

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Maybe it'll all melt down this July...
Maybe it'll all meltdown this July...
Maybe it'll just meltdown...
16 team NHL season coming up?
then 6...
and then there were three...
Genesis.
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20Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:35 pm

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uh, is this the same group that just announced they had the much sought after "exclusive" negotiating rights with Glendale?

And the rich dude in Chi-town has apparently backed away....I know I read that somewhere this week....

If this is accurate, and not another bargaining chip/ploy....boy of boy is this ever a mess!

21Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:41 pm

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Yes. heh heh

What a bunch of maroons eh?

22Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:11 pm

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GOM- one billion dollars for security for G20 blowhards, could've bought how many franchises?
What a waste!

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23Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:25 pm

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rosencrentz wrote:GOM- one billion dollars for security for G20 blowhards, could've bought how many franchises?
What a waste!

5, maybe 6, if they were all priced the same as what the NHL wants for the Arizona Coyotes.

24Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Empty Re: Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:44 pm

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rosencrentz wrote:GOM- one billion dollars for security for G20 blowhards, could've bought how many franchises?
What a waste!

We can look a little closer to home for waste. Ice Edge Holdings response to my email Icon_cry

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