die and then BURN IN HELL MELISSA AUDY!

WARNING -- Details of this case may offend some readers.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/7-hours-to-call-911-50347492.html

a freakin year... she gets a freakin year!... time to start firing prosecuting attorneys

Who the hell paid Brodsky????? The taxpayers? What is it with these lowlife scumbags that they can afford the best lawyers out there to defend them??? A PLEA BARGAIN and she wants to regain custody of the other ones that had been taken away? This is too much.

Makes me want to puke. Like she's not capable of the same thing with the other kids. Where is CFS on this one? Oh yeah, she's not a Nazi.

Here's yet another one...

City police have charged a 27-year-old woman with murder in the death of her 20-month-old daughter, the latest young child to die tragically after going through Manitoba's child-welfare system.

No one would say when toddler Jaylene Sanderson Redhead was reunited with her mother Nicole Redhead, who was arrested late Thursday and is charged with second-degree murder.

Jaylene Redhead was once in the care of a Child and Family Services agency but was returned to her mother, a source said yesterday.

Will this @#$% also get a slap on her wrist for this heinous crime?

I have LOT's of questions.

* why was info about this murder only now released when the child died over a week ago?

* why did the cfs return this child to that @#$%?

* why is every agency involved in this pathetic event clamming up?

* when will the chiefs assemble a press conference and blame the white man?

This ongoing horsesh1te must end.

Throw the book at that "mother" and never ever let her produce a single child again.

Throw the book at the agencies involved that so utterly and completely failed that young girl. The First Nations of Northern Manitoba Child and Family Services Authority should be prosecuted for failure to do their job.

Are we ready to admit this cfs experiment is an abject failure? Many many people should be ashamed of their actions or inaction.

If women like this were forced to be sterilized the first cry would be attempted genocide. I told of a story on the other forum of Awasis fuckups, young girls being forced to go thru births they did not want to go thru....the children having been products of incestuous rape, and on and on and on....some of these women believe it is their right to breed at will....who pays in the end? The innocent child.

Yeah, where is all the righteous indignation Mr. Evans????? Fontaine??????? other leaders? Where the hell are you guys?

Miz point wrote:If women like this were forced to be sterilized the first cry would be attempted genocide. I told of a story on the other forum of Awasis fuckups, young girls being forced to go thru births they did not want to go thru....the children having been products of incestuous rape, and on and on and on....some of these women believe it is their right to breed at will....who pays in the end? The innocent child.

Yeah, where is all the righteous indignation Mr. Evans????? Fontaine??????? other leaders? Where the hell are you guys?

Doesn't make for good press, so they say nothing, and do nothing, which is what they are especially good at.

Freeman wrote:Makes me want to puke. Like she's not capable of the same thing with the other kids. Where is CFS on this one? Oh yeah, she's not a Nazi.

And what would you have done o expert .

That's just it Pavolo. We are not experts in that arena. That's why we hire people supposedly expert in that field.

But we know what we expect of these people.

I know where I'm expected to be expert and I strive to excel. If 4 or 5 small children were to die under my watch I'd expect lot's of very probing questions. I would not expect smart ass comments as an argument.

You are a self-professed expert in this field Pavolo. How about you tell us ignorant masses why keeping children alive, while wards of the CFS, is so difficult.

Pavolo - this garbage with the native leaders and native run child care initiatives has been going on in this province for decades! CFS is an agency that is caught up in the PC cycle of ethnic imperative. Why this agency feels it should take guff and direction from a group of people who cannot take responsibility for their own action/inaction on a MYRIAD of issues???? It is beyond my ken.....CFS IS MORIBUND.

Here is an excellent column that nails the problem's perfectly. As I see them.

Read this...

Ms. Lakritz summed it up beautifully.....Ron Evans et al, please take note.

Pavolo wrote:

Freeman wrote:Makes me want to puke. Like she's not capable of the same thing with the other kids. Where is CFS on this one? Oh yeah, she's not a Nazi.

And what would you have done o expert .

And wehre did I say I was an expert? Having trouble with understanding the Queens English?

You are a self-professed expert in this field Pavolo. How about you tell us ignorant masses why keeping children alive, while wards of the CFS, is so difficult
http://www.gov.mb.ca/fs/cfsmanual/1.4.0.html
Start by reading this and get an Idea of what the people can do and can,t do , they are not miracle workers and yes the column in today's paper is very true , they have to take responsibility . Thing is we have taught them not too, we have bought them for so long they have not known how ,or were not allowed to till the last 18 yrs. And they are trying to fix many wrongs that you or any one else on here has not had to put up with.
Children taken from the through adoptions to out side non native families, never to be told where they came from. The whole residential school thing the whole reserve thing . What I am pointing out is that much of the problem can be traced to what we have done . If you think it is their fault you do not understand the problems .
Grumpy I have never said any one on here is ignorant cept when you put words in my mouth , like you do .
Miz Point yes it is and that is because the goverment is in control , from what you seem to say you have experience dealing with them . So you know how hard it is to get something good done for some kids who desearve it .
No problem at all Freeman but where do you get your knowledge of the system , from your inner city job ? I have spent 20 yrs in the field and worked for and around these kids , have had some stay in my home to save them from suicide . So please do tell me where you get your knowledge .
Not that there is not changes needed to be made but it is not as simple as some on here think to do .

Pav, a lot of us grew up in abusive homes or suffered some sort of discrimination or assorted hardships and it was our choice NOT to perpetuate said hardships on our offspring but instead offer our children a supportive and nurturing environment. There are many families out there living in reduced circumstances who have done just that and not whinged about having less or using the past as an excuse to victimize the innocent and vulnerable.

Conversely, what of those of us who grew up in higher income homes who did suffer abuse or watched our parents duking it out, or suffered by proxy the ravages of another family member's mental illness? Christ, the list is endless.....misery and hardship is not limited to one ethnic group but I can think right now of one group that through governmental and tribal council infantilization comprises the largest list of victimizers and victims....perhaps it is time for those voices to rise up against this infantilization and control and take charge of their own destinies as they are more than capable of doing so in this information age.

Maybe then those cycles of violence could be curtailed?

Yes by no means are they only ones to be abused but they are the only ones held in those shackles still to some degree. The Indian Act has only been gone a short while after all . The lack of understanding of the way of this country and it's ways of working is the major block for them .
They have to take responsibility for there lives and they have to learn how to live within 2 cultures theres and ours , one which is still not 100 percent accepted in this country.
How many Natives do you know who have made this difficult adjustment , more then have not, I wonder .

Bullshit. That argument may have worked thirty or forty years ago....not now.....if anyone is in shackles it is of their own design. Time for the Anishnabe to get rid of the government sanctioned corruption in their own communities so they can clean up the messes that some of the more "lost" urban members are getting themselves into. We all have to live in more than one culture for chrissakes!!! By virtue Pav of what you have just stated, no matter how well intented, you are engaging in infantilization of First Nations Peoples.

We still do not give them full and open access to this country , and you are right as I have said, they do need to change there ways . And their culture is very different when it comes to children and how they are raised .

What do you mean "we" do not give "them" full and open access to this country? Last time I looked there were no checkpoints outside of the rez nor checkpoints leading into the big city where one would have to show an ID displaying ethnicity or allowed travel zones.....hmmmm.....as to cultural differences in terms of parenting? Please elaborate. I would be very interested to hear your anthropoligical treatise regarding aboriginal child-rearing techniques as they compare to non-aboriginals.

"We still do not give them full and open access to this country "

WTF are you talking about? There are aboriginals in every sector of society in our country. They live every where, they work every where and they go every where. They have more freedoms and rights then Non Native people.

Pavolo wrote:You are a self-professed expert in this field Pavolo. How about you tell us ignorant masses why keeping children alive, while wards of the CFS, is so difficult
http://www.gov.mb.ca/fs/cfsmanual/1.4.0.html
Start by reading this and get an Idea of what the people can do and can,t do , they are not miracle workers .

So you have to be a miracle worker in order to get kids to adulthood?

Where in the manual does it tell workers to be incompetent and make decisions which basically cost children their lives? Good thing they don't provide the same manual to parents, hate to think what things would be like.

And so passes another opportunity that the chiefs could have used to denounce the problems of their people and asked all of them to look in the mirror and try to start to help themselves..

oh well.

Pavolo wrote:No problem at all Freeman but where do you get your knowledge of the system , from your inner city job ? I have spent 20 yrs in the field and worked for and around these kids , have had some stay in my home to save them from suicide . So please do tell me where you get your knowledge .

So, where can you quote me about my knowledge of the system? Can't argue with facts, so just make sh1t up. Thats the way your posts usually go.