Is Canada More Militaristic Because Of Harper?

Let U.S. deserters stay




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With support from all three opposition parties, the House of Commons last week again voted for a motion calling on the Conservative government to allow American deserters from the Iraq war to stay in Canada. And again the government paid no attention.
But Conservative MP Laurie Hawn, parliamentary secretary to the minister of defence, responded: "They are not identical at all. In Vietnam it was a conscripted army, and in Iraq it is a volunteer army."
Not entirely true. Many Americans (and even some Canadians) volunteered to fight in Vietnam, and some of them later became disillusioned with the war and deserted.
There are only about 200 seking asylum. There were about 50,000 during the Vietnam War, when the U.S. had its citizens forced to serve.

Ok...I'll bite.

Kick the deserters out!!! No, even better, arrest them, and hand them over in a big public ceremony to the Marines who will shoot them on site!!!

For the Vietnam War...I'll grant that the draft was extreme and not everyone should've been there.

TODAY though...these people VOLUNTEERED to join. They signed a paper saying they would go through the training, and if called on to fight (for any reason) for their government...they would do so...and now...because they may actually have to honour their commitment, they decide to run away?

If they really don't want to stay and fight, they do have options. They can get discharged medically, they can file a protest/grievance with the various boards, they can stand up to their officers and demand asylum (still lands them in jail).

But no, these idiots want to run, and maintain "normal" lives outside of the reach of the military, while others go and fight (and die) in their place, because of overworking covering for the AWOL deserters.

So no...don't let them stay...either shoot them on site, or send them back kicking and screaming. Better yet...drop them in the middle of a Hot Zone in Afghanistan with a pistol. If they make it out alive...give them their discharge papers...if not...hopefully they'll take a few of the bad guys with them. Either way...they'll learn how to fight pretty quickly.

What is this thread about?

Boobs!

Not Harper's I hope.

you got a problem with Harper's boobs??

Political or otherwise?

How do you know the difference they are both bigger than life .

'Winning' in Afghanistan sounds a lot like 'winning' in Vietnam



The escalated American war in Afghanistan is shaping up as another Vietnam, which brought a generation of grief to the United States.

The parallels are uncanny. Both wars concern far-off lands with difficult supply lines and people with centuries-old resistance to foreign control. In each case, the other side is fuelled not just by nationalism but also by ideology - communism in Vietnam, Islamism in Afghanistan. In each case, local resistance has the military advantage of relatively safe sanctuaries - North Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia in the one case, Pakistan in the other



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It is simply amazing how history repeats itself. Our politicians do not learn, and in our attempt to help other 3rd world nations, we end up getting involved in a military battle that never was winnable in the 1st place.

Aid to other countries is laudable, but this killing of our own is just horrific!